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Hans Torvatn's avatar

Interesting analysis of the veteran treatment in the US. I remember a lot of memes and slogans basically denying student loan forgiveness untill the needs of the veterans were met. I am afraid the end result will be nothing for both groups.

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Harry Storm's avatar

Why the haste to pin it on a radicalized Muslim??? Maybe, just maybe, it’s because this depraved act was carried out by a radicalized Muslim, like so many similar acts. And linking this to Trump or what’s in store for America under Trump is what’s really disgusting, and shows the depths to which TDS sufferers are ready to sink.

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Hans Torvatn's avatar

It may have been carried out by a radicalized Muslim. Who had served more than a decade in the Us Army. Who was born and raised there. There are several questions that can be raised then. The most important one is of course how the radicalization process happened. Where did a guy who should know better turn towards the ideals he had defended? Why did nobody pick up any signals? Was there anything in his service that could lead to this? Any support that could’ve avoided this? These and similar questions matter. There are many veterans out there. They don’t have to turn to IS. They could go anti-semitic and nazi and start gunning down Jews. Or Muslims. Or… the point made in the piece here was that destroying veteran support is rather risky, in addition to being very immoral towards people who have risked their life for the US. And that Trump had done that. Feel free to call that TDS if you want. But that don’t impress me much.

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B Kean's avatar

Hans, you are trying to bring back a cultist from the Gayanan jungle...we all know how that turned out for the people who went down there to get their loved ones out.

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Hans Torvatn's avatar

You mean I shouldn’t feed the trolls? You’re probably right. Still I like to engage a little bit in discussion.

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Harry Storm's avatar

Given your thought processes on display here, impressing you isn’t exactly a priority. Non-TDSers will appreciate my comment. TDSers like you scour to find something, anything, you can pin on Trump. Yesterday another TDSer wrote an entire article blaming Trump because a psycho teenager poisoned a goat. Funny how millions of vets manage not to mow down 15 people despite cuts to the VA.

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Hans Torvatn's avatar

You are of course not into impressing anyone. You are into insulting. But never mind I didn’t expect anything better. Of course millions of vets make do. That will always be the case. Apart from the moral question of how you handle the veterans (which you conveniently ignore) the question is whether or not the number of those who don’t hang on will increase. But don’t bother answering. We both know that you will never find any fault in Trump.

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Harry Storm's avatar

Trump has a lot of faults. However, as full of faults as he is, he has far fewer than the current iteration of the Democratic party.

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Hans Torvatn's avatar

That is actually an interesting statement. So can you provide two lists?

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B Kean's avatar

You mean fellow cultists and Bronies. Okay, Harry, dismissed. We will save our country from you and the rest even it kills us. What about all of the shit-headed Christians who kills kids in schools? All I hear then from you cultists is "2nd Amendment rules...thoughts and prayers." The funniest thing in all of that is the use of the words "thought." Thinking has become evolutionary dead-end for Trumpists.

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B Kean's avatar

Your race hate and ignorance empowers the orange Mussolini. I know it's not pleasant when as a cultist you hear sane people talk the truth about your leader, but maybe you should take a break from Fox and truth social and try to see how lost you and all of the cultists truly are, Storm.

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Harry Storm's avatar

OK, here goes: 1-re: “race hate”, if you can provide a single instance of me hating anyone due to race, I’ll give you a cookie. 2-I suppose Mussolini is better than Hitler — you’ve done that too — but it’s still absurd. 3-He isn’t my leader. I’m Canadian. If I were American I would have voted for him in 2024, but even then, he wouldn’t be my “leader,” just the best candidate IMO. 4-I don’t watch Fox; 5-I’ve never looked at Truth Social. 6-I’m not a cultist, but you sure sound like one. Other than the first 5 points, your comment is truly excellent.

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B Kean's avatar

Ah, a Canadian...you mean soon to be an American if your cult leader gets what he wants. Bronie. I hope your spewing of hate and anger here spares others on your floor the anger that seems to follow you like a shadow.

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